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10th Mar 2010 23:39:47 CET. Edited 3 minutes after.

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madwolf

@ madwolf: Was that post directed at me?

Nope, it was directed at Nooby, while I was writing the reply and watching episode of NCIS L.A., your reply to him came in between.

Also, because there would be vacuum in the barrel=no resistance=higher muzzle velocity=faster speed. Right? However, because of the lack of the resistance, maybe there wont be enough energy to actually have impact force?


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11th Mar 2010 00:40:42 CET

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Tacticalspoon

However, because of the lack of the resistance, maybe there wont be enough energy to actually have impact force?

How do you figure?


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11th Mar 2010 00:56:02 CET

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batfastard

Ever seen Pitch black? The hail of mirco-comets had impact force. It's probably been explained in some sci-fi books and probably some wikipedia articles better than I can, but here goes: If the bullet is moving at supersonic speeds and encounters a stationary or relatively stationary object (such as a lanshark or marine) then it will still have the same impact force as on earth but at extended range. But if the object is travelling at the same speed or near the same speed then there will be barely any contact.

Thats how I see it due to info from sci-fi films books and my limited understanding of physics.


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11th Mar 2010 04:15:38 CET

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Stormrider

Great idea

I think the game will be focusing on being a first person shooter, and will not have controllable vehicles in it, apart from the Titan Walker. this is still a game where you are inside and playstyle is a mix af SWAT, Half-life ect.

it could be fun if ZPS did something that only few had done: space-combat. we have seen it in shattered horizon and EVE online ect.

but there is so many problems about space-games.

it feels slow, no places to hide and no sound. Another thing about flying in space is that you doesn't feel like moving. there must be objects around you, before you feel movement. maybe a chase through small rocks or between asteroids or even over the surface of a moon.

ZPS is focusing on a "realistic" scifi game where you are inside mines, stations and other kind of facilities. the only "realistic" weapon which can be used in space, is rockets and laser, but what I heard so far, is that there ain't gonna be any laser weapon in the game :,(

but yeah it would be cool if there was going to be space-combat; maybe an sneak attack on an enemy shield-defend sattalite facility (SDSF), which is blocking any non-authorized flight to a planet. you had to spacewalk in offlinemode (so you wouldn't be detected) to the satalite, land and destroy the outerwall to get into the spacestation and fight your way to the command central. there you had to hack your way into it's system and disabled the shield's raygun defendsystem, so you can continue your mission on the planet.

but something goes wrong and there are more SDSF's. then you and your team uses the railgun and other weapons system on the station to destroy the other SDSF's which closing in with BSU's (Boarding Shock Unit) you defend the station in a various of ways. first eliminate the BSU's and spacecraft with missile and laser turrents and then destroy the remaining SDSF's. some of BSU's may land and then you, or some from your team, have to go to the hangar and kill them (maybe with help from the SDSF's defendsystem with hidden gatlings).

when finally had completed the counterattack, your team dives into the planets atmosphere in evacuationspods from tghe SDSF or with the enemies' spacecraft with is in the hangar. ...wow! that was much

Haven't Heard about Star Wars Battlefront 2 yet. Had some sweet space stuff.


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11th Mar 2010 06:17:22 CET

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Annihilator27

Has ZPS ever hinted at driveable vehicles?


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11th Mar 2010 06:31:38 CET

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Tacticalspoon

TBH I couldn't care less if vehicles were absent.


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11th Mar 2010 07:15:32 CET

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Siepher

TBH I couldn't care less if vehicles were absent.

+1


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11th Mar 2010 10:01:23 CET

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TheSargeGuy

Some fight aboard the Kitty Hawk would be cool.


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11th Mar 2010 17:42:49 CET

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voyager33mw

Some fight aboard the Kitty Hawk would be cool.

Agree. Maybe the marines go on a Mars mission while the Kitty Hawk waits in orbit. After completing their objective, they find out that the pirates they've been fighting against on the surface have commandeered the Kitty Hawk and are taking her as a prize.

But an Interstellar Marine would NEVER let that happen.


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11th Mar 2010 20:28:53 CET

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Annihilator27

TBH I couldn't care less if vehicles were absent.

I wouldnt care either, But I like seeing what they can come up with for the Project IM Universe.


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13th Mar 2010 11:42:42 CET. Edited 2 minutes after.

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NOOBY

Hmm... I am no scientist but if ZPS could say "the bullets are so air tight that they work in space", why not?

Bullets DO work in space. Bullets do not need any outside oxygen for their propellant to do it's intended job because oxidizers are included in the gunpowder.

U know it makes em slower madwolf,its like in water bullet penetration allows small arms bullets to go a long way down in the water,in space they have to break through the non gravity air or what u now call it,however they will be slower........ i think at least.....

I can't say I follow you here. Fast travelling bullets don't get anywhere in water. Basically, the water can't get out of the way fast enough, puts a ton of resistance on a bullet and tears it apart. Mythbusters tested it, and even a .50 BMG shell didn't make it very far before it was torn to shreds.

In space there would be much smaller influence of gravity, and since it is a vacuum there would be no air molecules providing the bullet resistance. I don't know if the bullet would fly faster, but it sure would maintain speed better and fly a flatter trajectory.


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13th Mar 2010 11:44:00 CET. Edited 2 minutes after.

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NOOBY

That was what i meant i saw it to and an M-9 could hit u and injure u in the water while the Barret 50.cal didnt harm u because the bullet blowed up!


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16th Mar 2010 23:40:03 CET. Edited 2 minutes after.

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Vidmaster

Agree. Maybe the marines go on a Mars mission while the Kitty Hawk waits in orbit. After completing their objective, they find out that the pirates they've been fighting against on the surface have commandeered the Kitty Hawk and are taking her as a prize.

Sounds terribly unbelievable, it's a fucking cruiser, not some small boat! There are thousands of better and more logical ways. Please remain grounded people!

Also, space ship fights are incredibly non-cinematic when portrayed realisticly. ( Don't point to B5 or BSG, Newton Physics don't make realistic space warfare ). That's the reason why we never saw a single one outside of a book :-)

I'd love zero g sections, Dead Space, Crysis and above all else Shattered Horizon have shown how awesome those are. But we don't need giant space ship fights here, no matter how much I love those.


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