did infinity ward and activisoin screw up while making mw3? YES

Oh yes big time. I wasnt expecting it to be as bad as it was. But before someone marks me hater or something; I have played all of the call of duty games, my favorite still is COD: United offensive and the series been pretty much downfall since cod3. Black ops is playable, MW3 oh no... no no no...

The funny thing is in my group of friends I called MW3's failure. They got it regardless of my warnings and now they admit to me that my fortune telling was indeed accurate. Now I sit here with my Warhammer miniatures because I don't think it's worth spending money on video games anymore, unless they're my cup of tea and a well made cup of tea at that.

Interstellar Marines is a promising cup of tea that I gladly pre-purchased so that I may enjoy it all the more when I have that cup of tea to drink and enjoy on a daily basis.

MW3 isn't the goddamn horrible game everybody keeps saying it is, it is quite fun from what I've tried, mainly Spec-Ops. Still, its multiplayer didn't really change significanty compared to MW2, making it more of a mod of the former (and if it were a Valve game, it would be^^). The Single Player did the same thing I disliked Black Ops' for - They just assumed the player would be bored if there wasn't a huge explosion every five minutes. Plus, the storyline was full of logical inconsistencies that would have never happened in times of CoD4. It's fun, bt not really good.

I hated MW2 to guts, probably more than it deserved. It's not a bad game by itself, after all, and you can have quite a lot of fun with it.
Still, it brought nothing more than an expansion would have, it gave almost no improvement from MW1 and some unforgivable setbacks. Like no dedicated servers and broken peer-to-peer replacement. And far worse, raspberry jam on the screen. I still don't understand this one. MW1 desaturation screen and muffled sound was very good, giving a good effect of what you feel when your blood pressure is dropping. And they replaced it by the worst, less immersive and most annoying injury effect I ever saw. In fact, what I really don't forgive, even today, is that they launched the trend and everyone followed. (And I'm not speaking about their DLC and RH politics).
They would have sold it as an extension and not made all those stupid additions and changes, I would have called it a good, maybe great extension, though.
And for the little experience I have with Black Ops, I thought it was plain mediocre.
But the sales figures seem to imply that I missed something on both those titles.

All that to say why I can only answer that to those who bought MW3 and didn't like it.
Yes, it's puerile, I'm sorry.

Guys, you're not staying on topic. Where's the talk of infant wards?

****i liked the surival not spec ops. the campain was awsome as always. though it was the multiplayer and the engine that heavliy set me down. first off they where using the same rig from mw2 thats pretty suckish. the multiplayer wasnt realy changed becuase the first time i played bf3 beta i was hooked it was mind blowing experaince. for mw3 it was just the same old stuff nothing THAT new. the elite pretty much tipped me offf becuase the mebership was not even worth it and ther first dlc realese 2 maps for 14.99 was a rip off.now there taking celebritys giving them guns and putting them in comercailes. all i have to say is treyarch did ALT better.

the most fun i ever had out of cod was at mw2's multiplayer, lasted me 360 hrs after that, i got black ops just for the zombies and i tried mw3 to see if it would give me the same thing as mw2. BIG. MISTAKE.

The Call of Duty games are fun--if not derivative. But their story lines are also kind of crazy, especially the end of MW2 when Americans become the bad guys. I felt like a jerk at that point in the game.

The Call of Duty games are fun--if not derivative. But their story lines are also kind of crazy, especially the end of MW2 when Americans become the bad guys. I felt like a jerk at that point in the game.

Wait, when did America turn good? (Points at news broadcast on his TV, stating the trillions of dollars in debt being forgotten for getting the president and his closest friends a ''Insert Stupid Overpriced Item Here'')

Nah, I liked that. Finally it wasn't the Russians or Germans for once. MW3 was ridiculous, as Makarov seemed to have acquired a teleporter. How else could he sneak 20 or more armed men on the Russian president's airplane or suddenly take over Europe (seriously, we are not helpless at all).

Wait, when did America turn good? (Points at news broadcast on his TV, stating the trillions of dollars in debt being forgotten for getting the president and his closest friends a ''Insert Stupid Overpriced Item Here'')

Not exactly 'good', just less bad than most others. Geopolitics are often (but not quite always) in black and gray morality, even if you can have heroes, monsters and (mostly) everything in between on each side.

Which doesn't change that the MW scenarios are increasingly stupid, but who plays such games for their scenarios anyway? And it's still slightly better than a Crysis or a muffled laugh Homefront...

I remember playing at the first MW and thinking 'Not bad, more FPS should be like that.' If only I had known...

The first MW was awesome in any regard. The story was still believable as well.

I'd say America has been on the blacker side for some years now, at least since 2003, the second Gulf War... Or, you know, Operation Just Cause in 1989... No other country attacks so many others all over the world. Can't believe how much shit Ron Paul gets for wanting to discontinue that (his dubious other ideas aside).

No other country attacks so many others all over the world.

You're right, everyone else sticks to the people close to them, largely avoiding the international spotlight. It helps that they don't stay for years trying to rebuild, thus amplifying the coverage. I hear conducting invasions during the Olympics helps others forget about them, too.

Not going to say that America is perfect, or even good but I find it hard to believe that they are on the "darker" side of the spectrum. Simply put, all peoples as a whole are selfish assholes protecting their own interests and the American government is no different. That said, if you were to swap the military and economic might of America with virtually any other country, at BEST you would see the exact same behavior with a potential for much much much worse.

Not going to say that America is perfect, or even good but I find it hard to believe that they are on the "darker" side of the spectrum.

Come on, North Korea is so much better! Look at their official images, they all seem so happy and well-organized!
I would like this to be for laughs, but one person once told me very seriously that North Korea has a superior system. Humans can be scary.

Simply put, all peoples as a whole are selfish assholes protecting their own interests and the American government is no different. That said, if you were to swap the military and economic might of America with virtually any other country, at BEST you would see the exact same behavior with a potential for much much much worse.

As an European, I'm contractually forced to say that if Europe had the same power than the US, they would do better. Now that it's said, I think that they would do differently, but probably not better or worse.
Still, I would say that there are exceptions, and some rare rulers would do better (you may have to browse History to have enough choice and find them, though). Not to start a flame war or anything, but I think that -insert controversial historical figure here- would have done a better job, for example.

The problem is not that all peoples as a whole are selfish assholes, I would say, but that all systems as a whole bring assholes to power. Some systems, like (hopefully) our good not-so-old democracies, just tend to bring less big assholes (or at least, less dangerous, or even just less incompetent) than others. There are better systems, even some which would work, but no one found a way to start them on a large enough scale yet.
And let's avoid the old pitfall of seeing America as one single organism. Maybe the biggest interest of democracy is alternation of power. The stupid things one government may do can be corrected by another. Moreso, it prevents said government to make increasingly stupid things as they feel they're there to last, and that they can freely extend their power. Which is why it is such a problem when alternation of power cease to work for a decade or more, or when some individuals manage to stay in power despite it.

On topic? What do you mean, on-topic?

I didn't find the story of the first MW so believable. Mostly, it felt far too simplistic. 'We are the good guys. The Russian and Undefined-Middle-Easters bad guys are conveniently working together. The Russian are not able to guard one of their ICBM silos (or just blow it up once compromised), but a team of Good Guys from the other side of the world can take it back fast enough.' But still, it was not awful and the staging was really enjoyable. Not unlike a Michael Bay film, but with slightly better overall acting and screenplay.
The incessant spawning is tiresome, though.

spec ops they fucked up on with mw on 2 and 3.... if they had put in a system like black ops like combat training... it would have been a very good game and to me bf just dont have good games to me... i could never get into them. i havent played bf3 but seen a friend play it and it wasnt interesting. it looked like crap to me... So anyways they fucked up on mw3 and i got rather bored with it and started to do this on spec ops. cod mw3 boredom